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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.10.28 19:26:00 -
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You may have seen our man Slimy Worm featured in some other Incursion griefing threads around here. He nabbed a couple logi here and there and a fun time was had by all. Except the logi, but **** carebears anyways.
Then Skunkworks got a dec from God Squad. That was a bit of a head scratcher for us, as we had just started making friendly with them a bit over a mutual war against No Kings. We had a convo with God Squad and they claimed that a bunch of people from the BTL channel hired them to dec us. I don't generally take things like that at face value, but one of our men had an email exchange shortly afterwards with carmelos53:
Quote:-.- really??? really?? lol listen we know you guys juat want to play the game grief and laugh. I get it I really do. about 5 months ago people started pitching in to war dec the people who grief them in incs..... it isn't btl.. it isn't tdf...
its people who you angered. you personally never kileld me, a corp or an alliance mate or even a friend. when people send killmails and you reach a certain number we ask for public donations if we get everything we need we go with the community's request to dec.
Nothing personal. I know you guys deal with god squad and frankly it doesn't bother me if you dont fight. if they keep paying someone gets hired that is just the way it goes.
when you get bored... contact me and I vote up a vote if they want to stop deccing... in general that is how it works.
Messenger only <----
btw I do still hate you :P
He added in a later email:
Quote:oh by the way if it means anything to you 193 peopel pitched in. enough for 3 months on you. hope you are happy
Now, I don't like highsec Incursions. It's not that we think less of incursionbears than we do of, say, mission-bears. It's that incursions in high sec pay too damn much. It's basically some of the best money in the game outside of owning a tech moon and therefore all kinds of people are just sitting in highsec doing those, rather than doing something more creative or going out to null or whatever. In our opinion, it's a stagnating influence.
Not that we won't do them, because, like neutral logi, you would be dumb if you didn't use all the tools at your disposal.
In any case, though, tears are delicious.
For this reason, The Skunkworks has declared an unofficial war on BTL Pub and incursions in general. What started as casual griefing to pass the time will become a full-time occupation until we tire of it. If you thought Slimy Worm was bad, now he's bringing friends.
The campaign against Incursioners started last night. One guardian, six Basilisks, three Machariels, two Vargurs, and a Nightmare were destroyed in a few hours. Over six billion isk in ships and modules were lost or stolen. One Incursion fleet landed in a Sansha deadspace without the logistics they were expecting. The panicked FC's commands were broadcast over our comms; we listened as they scrambled to evacuate and save their precious ships.
This stops when we get bored, or when The God Squad's war dec is retracted on orders from the people who hired them and someone diplos their way out of it. A ransom might be involved. I hadn't really thought that part out yet. If you want a war with the Skunkworks, we will deliver it. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.10.28 22:07:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:
As a representative from BTL pub I'd like to firmly point out that BTL operators, moderators or FC's generally in charge have not issued any war declarations on behalf of BTL Pub.
Our simple goal is to provide incursions for everyone, everywhere at anytime. When you say "people from BTL" that means pilots who use our service (channel) that are non-affiliated with BTL pub.
Your reasoning for a "war declaration" is therefore put on a wrong basis.
v0v Talk to carmelos53, since he made himself out to be a representative of BTL pub.
And yeah, we're not putting that big of a dent in the overall incursion wallet, and probably never will have the manpower to do that.
What we can do is get everyone afraid to join a pickup incursion fleet for fear of getting ganked.
Also, I'll mention again that the tears we get are so ******* delicious. In fact, I think we'll probably start recording them and releasing tear compilations. Maybe auto-tune it and make rap songs. Who knows. The game needs to hear more tears. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.10.28 23:06:00 -
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Is that who that is? Hmm, I guess I laid blame on the wrong set of incursionbears.
Not that it'll effect the operations at all.
Good to know, though. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.10.28 23:54:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Ammzi wrote:And a last thing, about 30-40 billion isk is being generated in highsec incursions at best peak times during the week an hour. So by your own admission a handful of dudes can reduce the overall productivity of incursions by about 5%. Imagine what will happen if we escalate this. If there's one thing the Skunkworks excels at, it's taking things WAY too far.
Quoted for truth. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2011.10.29 20:07:00 -
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http://www.forscience.co/KB/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=8
Campaign says 11b in two days. There's some choice kills in there. Nightmares and whatnot. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.10.31 14:31:00 -
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It would be foolish of us not to use all the tools available to us in the same way that we have neutral logi available even though I believe that neutral logi not getting aggression for repping people sucks as a mechanic.
Besides that, I'm not arguing for the elimination of incursions. Honestly, it's neat content. I mean the whole constellation slightly changes color and gets invaded by spike-covered zombies? That's cool. I am argueing that the isk-to-risk ratio needs to be changed.
Also, you're forgetting the other major reason we're doing what we're doing: We want to. Even if it didn't have these secondary effects that we are really pleased about we would probably still do it. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:12:00 -
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We've got several people now who have sworn the eternal destruction of the Skunkworks, and make it a point to know what we're up to as thoroughly as possible. Far be it for me to denounce getting thorough intel, being as it's one of the tools we used to best effect when we're at war, but I do have a bit of a giggle picturing these dudes making big charts with our pictures on them and gathering search results and telling their precious how they'll get revenge. :D
On an other note, we broke 30 billion isk destroyed in this campaign last night and also have a delicious story to tell about a kill we got. I won't bother copy-pasting, since this is a great opportunity to be an attention ***** and link my blog.
Here, have a link. |
Psychotic Monk
Go Petition Blizzard
10
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:50:00 -
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Ammzi, my complaint against them isn't as much the isk they make, but the isk they make compared to the risk to the pilot/ship. Until we came along, that is. :P
Although that's really a discussion best had in one of the other sub-forums.
Speaking of money, we hit just a hair short of 40b killed last night. I was originally gunning for 60b killed in a week, but I think we're going to well exceed that. I wish there was an emoticon that let me properly express my feelings about that. Is there an overjoyed emoticon? |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
10
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Posted - 2011.11.03 00:23:00 -
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Andrei, are you defending Gaz's posting, really? |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:11:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:My dear griefers, you haven't achieved anything. Keep dreaming  You have to work a bit harder 
Ammzi wrote:
Hey, everything better for me. More space in the crowded vanguards systems to do sites!
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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:17:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Ammzi wrote:My dear griefers, you haven't achieved anything. Keep dreaming You have to work a bit harder Ammzi wrote:
Hey, everything better for me. More space in the crowded vanguards systems to do sites!
No sense of community with you incursion bears. tsk tsk |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2011.11.04 02:30:00 -
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Ladies and gentlemensk,
Skunkworks, a mere six days after incursions declared war on us, have reached our goal of 60 Billion worth of incursion bear ships killed! It's been a wild ride so far, with people expressing both incredible hate and the heartiest congrats. Due to this we've met like-minded players that we never would have had a chance to chill with otherwise.
The incursionbears themselves have been great hosts. They commonly announce our presence to each other, while making furtive superstitious hand gestures to ward us off, like we were some kind of evil spirits. At the same time, they've continued to feed us a steady supply of kills, the kills were often in Machs and Nightmares. We've even gotten to watch their perception of us develop over that time. On the first day they thought we were all Slimy Worm's alts. By the third day they were claiming we had been black-listed for the better part of a year. On the fifth day someone say a Velator wreck in an OTA and announced that we had 'can flagged' that incursion and nobody should enter.
Our impact has been such that they feel like they've been persecuted for weeks or even monthes and are flat out telling each other ghost stories about us.
The kills themselves have been great, too. Sometimes they were like an assembly line. Incursion bears go out one end and come in the other. Often two or even three at a time. Other times, we've had to milk the kills out gently, like some kind of extremely delicate japanese art. Often, we would directly instruct them to do things that didn't make the slightest bit of sense, except that it ushered them to their doom.
Here are some of my favourite killmails from the campaign so far:
http://www.forscience.co/KB/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=582 This dude dropped a gun in order to fit an energy transfer. Except he didn't have the skills, so he went and bought the book and trained it. We killed several other things with him in fleet while he was doing that.
This Rattlesnake watched us kill a dude and when we 'regrouped' at shortly after he repped me and got himself killed.
We have also gotten some extremely choice tears. Let me show you some of the shorter but more delicious snippets:
Inspironous > either way your a ****** and suck at life
SOLE Fide > well then they have exploted the game beyond all reason... and it will crash on them :)
Lord Wickham > what should be happeneing is btl should be putting a grief fleet up for the griefers
Lord Wickham > kill their basi a few times and they will soon stop
Valichaos > whatever
Valichaos > go **** yourself you dumb **** sucker
Dame TTUSOONI > yeah
Dame TTUSOONI > **** you
Dame TTUSOONI > you and your freinds will pay for this
Dame TTUSOONI > sooner or later
Psychotic Monk > Oh yeah? What are you going to do?
Dame TTUSOONI > you don't have to care about that
Christopher Williams > **** you faggity
Thanks very much, incursion bears. And thanks for the money to buy some of those shiny ships we see you guys running around in. They're nice. I hope this only gets better from here. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2011.11.04 22:31:00 -
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PlayerName wrote:carmelos53 wrote:
Hope you like the pos we killed from your alt Corp. Also when we break even for the 212 mil remaining yes the decs might drop if we feel like it but people havnt pvped for 2 weeks now so maybe when you guys decide to fight that might happen.
I was unaware of a POS loss. I know you reinforced 2 of our towers, but no towers have been lost as of yet. Also, slice it however you'd like, the point is we've still killed 60+ billion (and climbing) in incursionbears. It's true that most of our kills have been shield oriented and from BTL, but TDF will get it's turn soon enough.
No, he got the POS we use to sometimes build a thing in when nobody else is online. Twenty odd-dudes spent an entire day shooting at the POS that we just threw a bunch of hardeners on and didn't even care enough to defend. And also the offline one the next moon over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLezXLuvNgc
And then, when we scraped the dec off, someone spent a bunch of hours shooting a reinforced tower in order to keep agression on it.
I know you're probably distraught, Player. I know I am. Both of my Artbirator BPOs and six data cores were in there. And I'll have to spend another 20m to buy a corp with standings next time I want to fiddle around with industrial stuff. That's, like, two Republic Fleet Gyros that these guys keep leaving in their wrecks.
I will try to be gracious in defeat, though. Congrats, Ammzi, on crushing the half a pot plant we had in the little flower box on the back deck of the Skunkworks club house. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2011.11.04 23:18:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:
Lol, talk about propaganda and biased stories.
Your silver tongue makes me wanna puke Psychotic, you've gotta do better than that.
Your measly 60 billion isk in kills over the course of 6 days is re-generated in 2-3 hours in incursions.
The only thing you are managing to do is bounding incursion runners together and reinforcing their hatred and suspicion against petty griefers.
How does it feel? That no matter what you do it is easily redone and the footprint you've put in the sand is quickly erased by the wind.
You are nothing and you shall remain nothing, but a bug squashed beneath our feet.
I laugh at you sir and I pity you.
I'm not usually one to fall back on a meme for a retort, but in this care it's stimply the best option. Look at how mad this guy is. It's like he's a cartoon who's head has become a tea pot, all red-faced and bug-eyed and with steam pouring out of his ears. I'm seriously concerned for his heart. The fact is, if he really felt that we were nothing, he wouldn't have spent 36 or more hours shooting the only thing he could reach, which is the hobby-horse POS mentioned above.
Dek'athor wrote:Ummm
Honest question guise, where are these guise when I'm bearing it out in incursions for 4-5 hrs daily ? If I didn't happen to read the forums I'd have never known any of it
Nothin in BTL except some Motd about some war, nothing in the 'other' (invite-only) shield incursion channel me and oooh, 150+ or so people frequent.
Where the heck are the incursion gankers and why aren't they more active ... ?
This guy totally has a point. The excuse I'll have to point to is our chilling inability to fill a second squad. We'll be contacting some like-minded organizations shortly so we can grab one or two of their guys and we can show them all we've learned about killing incursion bears and they can take that knowledge back to their people and spread it. Hopefully that should help some of the proliferation problems we're having. Dek, I promise that I will try to make sure that more violence gets visted upon more boats.
As for the invite-only channels: good. Fine. I'm totally cool with the fact that they've found the right hoop to jump through to make their incursioning safer. That doesn't mean we won't get them, too, but it does mean that they've had to put more effort into what they're doing. You'll recall that my arguement against incursions isn't that it pays too well. Plenty of things pay as well as incursions do. The difference is that those other things require much more effort and have much more risk. If we've caused incursion bears to have to try and stay one step ahead of us to not get ganked, then my mission in that respect is accomplished.
Also, I'd like to state once more for the record that this is shitloads of fun. We're really enjoying ourselves.
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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2011.11.04 23:48:00 -
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carmelos53 wrote:LOL not aware of a pos kill? 1 offline pos was killed and we just finished off the active large. An eye for an eye. thanks champs. Nice try with the alliance hoping to invalidate the wars too. Unfortunately there are ways around it.
Not really wanting to play the tough guy card here but now we are even. Have fun killing randomy pilots who can't defend themselves.
The pos kills definately cover our 2 loses.
No hard feelings.
Cool. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2011.11.06 01:06:00 -
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So we've been getting so many kills and ransoms and ejects that we're kinda drowning in faction BSs right now.
And we want the boat violence to spread.
So here's what we'll do. First person who links me 10b in incursion **** killed from the date/time of this post onwards gets a free Navy Apoc.
That's right. A Navy Apoc. No joke. If anyone actually cares we can contact Chribba about it, but I assure you I'm serious as a heart attack.
Kills must be on Battleclinic and and must be API verified. All the kills must be one one character. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2011.11.06 07:18:00 -
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Here's a kill we got on somebody who is apparently a big deal on the Battleclinic forums or something. He locked the comments and we knew somebody with the power to unlock it and he's all embarassed and stuff.
It's pretty lulzy. Read them comments.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14562526#comments |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2011.11.06 08:58:00 -
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Our buddy who was on the scene scooped the lab that had them, so no loss, even. Close one.
On the other hand, even if we had lost that, 110m loss vs. Nightmare someone ejected from while they were shooting that... v0v |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2011.11.06 10:20:00 -
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Everyone claims to have no isk. So we ask about assets the can contract us. Or we tell them they can eject and we'll give them back their mods, so they don't walk away empty handed.
We've gotten a Mach, a Nightmare, a Loki and a Navy Apoc that way.
We've outfitted basically all our dudes in hilarious shiny **** and intend to start handing them to non-skunks who start doing this. Look at my other thread on this board for details on that. We're handing out the Apoc already. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.11.06 20:12:00 -
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Dasrufken wrote:
I can has?
Yes. Link me 10b in incursion **** killed with none of the kills being before the post I mentioned this in originally last night. They've got to be API verified.
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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2011.11.06 22:41:00 -
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/golfclap for us. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2011.11.07 15:26:00 -
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Aine, I don't think they're expressing any particular jealousy. I mean, I've made the offer several times that if people want to come along and be taught how it's done we'll teach them. A couple people have taken us up on it.
Even without that, I've seen a small handful of people doing it on their own. It's not difficult. Power power to them in those cases.
People can give us props for doing good work without wanting to stab us in the kidneys and replace us as Kings of This Week. You should probably chill out a bit. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2011.11.07 18:15:00 -
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Ammzi wrote: Big wall of text, one of the major points of which is that we're wrong in our conclusion that incursions, unbalanced by enterprising assholes like ourselves, are a not good for the game.
Ammzi, I think you're wrong, although it's not impossible that you're spot on. We can go back and forth with walls of text for weeks, and I'm sure we will, but it doesn't change the fact that we have the leverage to act on our opinion, which is the part that really matters.
Also, even if you did manage to convince me of your position, it doesn't adress the number one reason we're doing this: It's fun as hell. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2011.11.07 18:48:00 -
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Oh yeah. I thought I made it clear. Our number one reason for doing this is that it's fun as ****. Everything else is just gravy. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:36:00 -
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proxwar wrote:http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4787&tid=1 1-0 to the high sec incursionbears. Love CCP. Incursion Logi ganking will be getting that little bit tougher from now on 
More like incursionbears: 1 and Skunkworks: 120b.
Also, that kinda sucks for us, but we were doing so well that CCP had to change the whole game for the dozen or so of us.
I wonder if this will effect neutral logi all in all. Nice response time, CCP. I would have left it as ~ emergent gameplay~ until incursions had some sort of other balancing factor, but v0v.
Fellow Skunks, I'd like to reiterate that you've done incredibly good work being so awesome that CCP had to weigh you down Harrison Bergeron-style. I'm incredibly proud of what we've done. Now let's go back to the lab and see what other highly clever **** we can do next. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2011.11.10 21:12:00 -
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Don't worry. We'd already given it some thought. We don't have the manpower to close the incursions the normal way, but we've been looking into what actually has to be done to close the site. We're trying to determine if it's actually killing the site or if we can start a despawn timer or do something specific like that.
If we can't do that there's still a plan to do with the mom sites and I'm pretty stoked about. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2011.11.10 21:19:00 -
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Oh yeah, there's lots on the table for us to use. We were going to wait until the incursion bears started getting smart enough to avoid our previous thing before we used them, but there's a couple options that need to be fully fleshed out, to be sure. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
49
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Posted - 2011.11.11 08:45:00 -
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Mythen took the news so badly that he can't see or stand up and had to go to the hospital.
I'm actually not kidding. He's in the hospital. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
49
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Posted - 2011.11.11 09:56:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:
This change only helps dribbling idiots.
Quoting for truth. Being stupid is apparently buffable. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
50
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Posted - 2011.11.11 21:04:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
As for griefers leaving the game: Sociopaths Online is that way -->
I hope that arrow is pointed at Iceland. |
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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2011.11.13 23:49:00 -
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And also it's pretty cool being a thread that's nearly as well-read as one of the stickies.
Feeds my ego. |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2011.11.14 02:19:00 -
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Relevant enough that you devoted a week of your existence to spamming all incursion channels with warning about us and we still managed to kill 120b worth of Incursions *****.
Show me any other 12 dudes that are killing 120b in two weeks in highsec. Doesn't even have to be griefers. Hasn't happened in several years to my knowledge. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
57
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Posted - 2011.11.14 19:20:00 -
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Yup, they certainly do fine work. They've been doing it longer, with more people, and have a much more impressive brag sheet all told, and have pioneered a bunch of techniques that are common grief tools today, but per man hour I don't think it's too arrogant of me to say that our incursion ganks were the most efficient griefing in recent history. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
57
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Posted - 2011.11.14 19:21:00 -
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Yup, they certainly do fine work. They've been doing it longer, with more people, and have a much more impressive brag sheet all told, and have pioneered a bunch of techniques that are common grief tools today, but per man hour I don't think it's too arrogant of me to say that our incursion ganks were the most efficient griefing in recent history. |
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